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Jarkko Nikula
Jarkko Nikula 4 hours ago
Anthony is cool :D
Muhammad Aizat Che Azemi
Good, now compate it to a 750 dollar Mac
bulubuloa
bulubuloa 9 hours ago
Awesome video, hope you do for a little higher market segment (i5 9600 (k) and Ryzen 7 2700 (X) )
Ponlets
Ponlets 11 hours ago
1:20 is video start
Forster Dave 43
Forster Dave 43 15 hours ago
what would be cool , is if you could build a virtual pc with all the components you wanted . and see how it reforms... you guys would of tested enough pcs over the year to be able to do that.. :) love ya linus..
SmartFool24
SmartFool24 16 hours ago
$1500 budget would be cool
Luke Grim
Luke Grim 17 hours ago
It seems negligibly close. The average gamer isn't really going to notice a difference between 68 and 75 fps
Andrea Padilla
Andrea Padilla 18 hours ago
Definitely would love to see a video like this but focusing on the high end processors
Shadow Walker
Shadow Walker 19 hours ago
If you only have $750 to spend you really should watch for deals and snag your GPU used off of Ebay, you could slaughter these builds for that price point. I just slayed these for less that $700 last week for a customer build with much higher specs that performs better than these.
Shawn Orichefsky
Shawn Orichefsky 20 hours ago
Awesome video, would love to see more like this! Both Linus and Anthony were both fun in this video. :) I can see this helping people with their builds
Omnorimli
Omnorimli 21 hour ago
I pay for electricity.... how does this add to the equation?
De Do
De Do Day ago
Who actually dislikes these videos? C’mon people
Uncultured Barbarian
loved this. more of these plz
YOUTUBE ANJING
don't forget power consumption for each system, since electric bill uses real money
Lieberdk
Lieberdk Day ago
Linus ffs. Ones again you need to include, that EU citizens cant follow these "words". AMD and INTEL or almost just as expensive, so those advice or whatever i am to call, it rather useless for those living in Europe. If it is cheaper in europe it is so little that that no matter what INTEL would still be most value for your money. I get it that it is cheaper in US and canada, i KNOW it is, but in europe there is a bigger tax than EU & canada, we are litterally paying extra to give it to the CANCER called Europe Union. This is why every country and citizens in Europe should force the politicians to give this shitty cancer shit up! Follow the british who were clever enough to get the hell out of EU! EU = much more expensive in taxes = Much more expensive to buy stuff = the only ones who gain from this is the paycheck the politicians gets.
D'oh Nuts
D'oh Nuts Day ago
Compare motherboads. I wants to build a PC and Motherboards come in a huge price difference. Do the cheaper one have a worse performance?
Jkwan
Jkwan Day ago
These results are true if you are strictly gaming but ryzen definitely benefits from the extra cores and threads if you are doing anything else or gaming and streaming
palindari
palindari Day ago
Try making a balls out Intel v. AMD - then compare bang-for-buck comparisons... that is if you haven't already...
Felipe Andrade
Other price points would be great. Another good one would be for other uses too, like content creators or science/engineering stuff. There is a lot of IT/engineering students and new content creators trying to maximize bang for a buck but they don't have any idea.
Cam P
Cam P Day ago
Should've checked professional performance as well
NvrUseYur RealName
...So confused. He said the Intel Core i5-8400(6 cores @ 2.8GHz) is "more powerful" than the AMD Ryzen 5 2600(6 cores @ 3.4GHz).... HOW? I'm admittedly way behind on processors(& a lot of PC hardware these days), but that just seems like a REALLY big difference to me & in the opposite direction from his statement. ...So, yea, what on Earth am I missing? Someone explain it to me please & thank you so much. :/
Kashif Riley
Kashif Riley Day ago
I'm actually getting an AMD Ryzen 2950X for my new build and the value was so good it allowed me to get more NvMe SSD and more memory
Planet Random
I Love how Linus was bitching with the hp 360 and saying how bad it was but he’s using it in this video, and a few months back saying how bad apple was, but Tweets from an iPhone. Linus, you’re full of shit and everyone knows it
Gupinder Momi
Gupinder Momi 2 days ago
What about quality over time? Which rig would last longer?
DennisTheGamer
DennisTheGamer 2 days ago
I was close to buying a i5 8400, but rather switched to a Ryzen 5 2600X, because of better benchmarks and I could get at a discount.
joseph bras
joseph bras 2 days ago
could it be possible you sugest me a configuration for at maximum 1000 dolars pc tower. games are not important, but the quality of the material are. it should run at least for 5 years. its purpuse is downloading media and watching video at in 4 k at 1gps speed. i think it shoul have a dedicate video card for not put that efort in the cpu. not overclocked, the motherbord sould have the latest wifi conection avaible.
Birdy Reene
Birdy Reene 2 days ago
I love these videos and it was neat seeing what they put together with a 750 dollar budget, but im curious fps benchmark wise how well both these builds in this video would do on poorly optimized games on a populated Rust server or Conan exiles server. I can torture my moldy potato of a pc all day long with csgo at around 55 fps on medium settings. but if I fire up rust, even if I run it on potato setting. with all its other optional settings as low as they can possibly go, I get 12 to 22 fps tops X_x and 30 in conan exiles. So im really curious how well either of these budget builds they showed in this video would run rust at low and medium settings.
Gullraiz Nadeem
Gullraiz Nadeem 2 days ago
Do one for content creation PCs
Wesley Beason
Wesley Beason 2 days ago
Do more videos like this, really gave true data for when your buying computer parts online. Thanks for the video.
Sam C
Sam C 2 days ago
really enjoyed this type of video. More chill, good information and well presented without being over the top.
Maaxiim
Maaxiim 3 days ago
My fx 4300 still runs, but I'll upgrade to a 2600 or 3600 depending on their release
Marsted Roashmallows
I'd like to see this comparison again at $500 with the amd system using a amd gpu. I think that'd be somewhat fair because amd doesn't have competition for the rtx 20 series cards yet.
connostyper
connostyper 3 days ago
From me the situation is different. You can built an AMD system with high end motherboard that is cheper than Intel. Then cheap out on cpu for example 2600. AMD motherboards will support 3rd generation ryzen. You can upgrade later if needed.
Bud King
Bud King 3 days ago
Anthony, with the money you save buying AMD you can put towards fixing your hair.
Crimson Salmadin
Crimson Salmadin 3 days ago
The one thing that AMD has over Intel is the upgradeability of the CPU on current motherboards.
Stephen Voss
Stephen Voss Day ago
AMD has done a good job of upgradeability of cpus not just with AM4, but with AM2 and AM3(+). Also the cooling options tended to stay consistent with am2, not needing a new cooler because the socket design stayed the same for about 10 years from AM2 to mostly the same with am4
Valentin Dimitrov
These types of videos are pure gold Linus.. oh and Anthony's build destroyed, I guess he is much more qualified :D
Derek Stinson
Derek Stinson 3 days ago
Anthony should have got a second try too.
JD Gaming
JD Gaming 3 days ago
upgrade the 2600 to a 1700 since you have 15$ more, also currently the 8400 is $199.99
Jasonoid
Jasonoid 4 days ago
Hoping to see what Ryzen 3000 does to the CPU market. Bring more competition from Intel? Let's hope so!
The Automaticist
The Automaticist 4 days ago
Can you redo this at around $1300 USD (about the value of the computer I built)
Deyvson Moutinho Caliman
I don't know how CPU performance are these days, but in Nvidia against AMD when they sell similar performance graphic boards, the AMD ones already come overclocked, they spend more energy and have higher temperatures. So if you overclock Nvidia you can go further, put more load into it, because it's harder to make it overheat. I thought it would be the same with CPUs, but it seems that AMD is really up to par with Intel nowadays, although I would like to see CPU temperatures in those tests, those temperatures should be the same because if Intel had a lower temperature it could be overclocked more.
megadeth22885
megadeth22885 4 days ago
wtf is the "amd build" using a nvidia GPU?.. so this is just a CPU comparison then?
Wiley Coyote
Wiley Coyote 10 hours ago
megadeth22885 yup
Chivokroy
Chivokroy 4 days ago
Science done right: "It certainly wasn't what we were expecting, but we're going with it."
Jigsaw
Jigsaw 4 days ago
Send me a gaming laptop and I'll draw an animal for you Linus.
DJJEZ1983
DJJEZ1983 4 days ago
Amd is for broke peasants. Change my mind
مقاطع مترجمة
Does he change the video Title !! weird
Nick Schafer
Nick Schafer 4 days ago
I feel they cheated on AMD here. They adjusted the intel specs for something that can't be overclocked(While improving specs and saving cost) when in the first place of the video that one of their requirements was it HAD to be an overclockable CPU.
Suleman Zaidi
Suleman Zaidi 4 days ago
isn't the i3-8350k better than the i5-8400? Much higher base clock, even when the 8400 goes into turbo and plus its cheaper
UgLiest_handsome
UgLiest_handsome 5 days ago
$1250 budget plz
Nathan Gamble
Nathan Gamble 5 days ago
Well, they've got to do the same with AMD vs nVidia now.
haloguy32375
haloguy32375 5 days ago
the real question is, why cant linus hold expensive equipment without dropping it
Robert Therrien
Robert Therrien 5 days ago
When GPU are $1000. Then AMD processors are the best.
Paul Gariepy
Paul Gariepy 5 days ago
Linus you should do a AMD vs Intel reliability / compatibility shootout. One of the reasons I left AMD back in the Athlon days was the chipsets were buggy and the USB ports always seemed to have issues vs the Intel platforms. AKA which platform is more stable especially when we talk about AMD winning with overclocking.
Galaxy Eyes Photon Dragon
+madmax2069 I think you need to take a closer look at the process
madmax2069
madmax2069 2 hours ago
+Galaxy Eyes Photon Dragon I already know how it works, how it functions. And the truth of the matter is that you're a nutter.
Galaxy Eyes Photon Dragon
+madmax2069 look up how the manufacturing process actually works, it's kind of a disappointment to see the truth behind it.
madmax2069
madmax2069 3 hours ago
+Galaxy Eyes Photon Dragon ahh wot
Galaxy Eyes Photon Dragon
+Ducky The Duck No way that will be true. Their 7 nm is kind of a marketing lie, only some parts of the CPU are 7nm and it doesn't affect the transistor density.
Fredrik Lindlöf
Fredrik Lindlöf 5 days ago
Something not mentioned in the video is value over time, I.E upgradability. Would love to see a video where they make approximations of each parts viable lifetime, and show plausible current and future upgradepaths and what the value preposition becomes then.
fmalone03
fmalone03 5 days ago
AMD also has a upgrade path. Intel regularly dumps support for current chipsets when they release a new CPU even though the performance gains are minimal and after a couple of years if you are looking for upgrades you will more than likely have to change your motherboard and CPU at once on Intel.
Anders Larsson
Anders Larsson 5 days ago
If it’s AMD vs Intel you have to go with an AMD GPU ;)
Pure Gameplay
Pure Gameplay 5 days ago
LOL american prices are seriously FUCKED. In Canada, I3 8350k is $320+ and the ryzen 5 2600 is $230, Come to Canada and you'll definitely see the price to performance that AMD has over swagtel. Ryzen 5 2600 and 2600x shit all over the I3 and cost 30% less, its literally a no brainer. The real title of this video should be, "Why does everyone like to be shit on by Intel"
Pure Gameplay
Pure Gameplay 5 days ago
Its not the budget option, is the logical option. Thats like saying every bag other than gucci is just a budget bag, when in reality some shit is just overpriced swag trash.
DAVID L CARTER
DAVID L CARTER 5 days ago
I knew big man would win this challenge,,, can you guys do the same thing with a 5 gpu mining rig?? THAT WOULD BE COOL
DAVID L CARTER
DAVID L CARTER 5 days ago
I have no reason to change and I am sticking with AMD
DAVID L CARTER
DAVID L CARTER 5 days ago
llinus AMD is for smart people like me that want the best for my money ,,I build miners and I am glad I bought the right RX590 NITRO cards for my miners and they work great and I see Nvidia trying to keep up with the 200 to 250 usd cards and I am glad to see the MH/z clock listings recently
Manuel Jurado
Manuel Jurado 5 days ago
One of your best video ever!: Great content, fantastic presentation and awesome execution. Please do this comparison for at least a couple of budgets more.
Fran
Fran 5 days ago
6:32 You are using liquid cooling, which wasn't in none of the lists 🤦
AndreasRiborg
AndreasRiborg 4 days ago
I know right, lets see the overclocking in the actual budget case
Ashley Perkins
Ashley Perkins 5 days ago
so he cheated by putting a non amd graphics card in the amd build....
Devolve
Devolve 17 hours ago
LOL well then Linus cheated too it's not an intel gpu... Derp
SanityDragon
SanityDragon 5 days ago
Productivity would also be interesting as i'm guessing the intel chip would win in premiere (quicksync) but the Ryzen chip would smash rendering? Nice video; worth a part 2 for productivity and then an all round balance?
Elbert Joseph Layco
For $750, i see there's a little bit of value difference. Will that increase/decrease based on the cost range like at $500 or even $1000?
furyp100
furyp100 5 days ago
I think it would be more reasonable to just compare motherboard and cpu prices since cases, psu, ram, and gpu doesn't matter for amd vs intel comparisons
Сука Блять
So basically AMD is better no matter how you try to spin it. Just Linus is an intel-shill and can’t bring himself to outright admit that fact.
roddybrod
roddybrod 5 days ago
Really loved this video! I've got plenty of friends making commitments to PC Gaming and this is a great introduction to budgeting their systems out! I really would have wished that you mentioned something about an i7's value proposition for this budget as I feel like many people automatically jump to them.
Matthew Langley
Matthew Langley 5 days ago
Honestly AMD (right now the 2700x) at the just below top end gaming machine is the top pick IMHO. Especially if you're looking at 1440p or greater where the advantages of a 9700k or 9900k diminish greatly do to being GPU bound, and what does that cheaper price on the AMD get you? A serious upgrade to GPU. For example the 2700x is regularly $310, but it also goes down quite a bit by $10-$20 less, even more commonly you can get some killer combo deals on newegg with a great MB or RAM and get anywhere from $20-$50 off. Likewise you get a pretty good stock cooler with it, often compared to say a $40-$50 aftermarket cooler. The 9700k is $420 and no cooler. all this plus cheaper motherboard options (that you can also get at some great deals or combo deals) typically means you can net about $150-$200 savings going 2700x and the 9700k is only a minimal amount better on CPU bound games, usually at 1080p, and usually no faster at 1440p or greater. Likewise multicore is a toss up between the two, 16 vs 8 threads in the AMD camp nets you some wins in some cases, while the 9700k with equal cores and higher clockspeeds nets you in some others. That $200 or so dollars will add a massive amount to your gaming results if applied either towards a GPU, a good monitor, or honestly to something else. Again 1440p you lost a couple FPS (and maybe none at all) but getter more FPS in GPU, higher refresh or better image quality in a better monitor, or maybe something like a better keyboard, mouse, headset, better chair, desk, faster drives, more high speed drives so you install less etc. Honestly unless you are either beyond having a budget at all (even if you have deep pockets) or you just need to get to that 240 fps in 1080p games (say an aspiring FPS pro or something) it just doesn't make sense, the price difference for the limited gain is just too much. There are countless ways to improve your gaming experience even if you've been dropping it like it's hot on components. Even then you can take that extra money that won't really benefit you much and spend them on games or software if nothing else. My wife and I got a set of 1080 tis for our gaming rigs last year (and for context I'm running a caselabs case so don't mind spending extra money for the quality)... this year when we upgrade CPU we could have dropped more on a 9700k or even a 9900k, but I just couldn't justify it. It really just doesn't add up unless we basically had an almost unlimited budget for our rigs and all of our gaming equipment and games. Just my opinion though.
Gerrard Harvey
Gerrard Harvey 5 days ago
+Linus random question: why do I get the Video_scheduler_internal_error BSOD and how do I fix it? After all I tried it appears it is related to graphics card driver or hardware but I'm not sure which. I don't have a second gfx card to test. I do know that with the gfx driver completely removed using DDU, it doesn't crash. But as soon as Windows update auto installs the driver, it crashes.
Nazar Andriyuk
Nazar Andriyuk 5 days ago
1500 price point
EagleClaw1842
EagleClaw1842 5 days ago
i feel bad for that chair
Cbeddoe19
Cbeddoe19 5 days ago
Because its way cheaper and you can upgrade old motherboards with new processors. Or you can buy older products for dirt friggin cheap. That little performance penalty isn't worth 2-3x the money for most people
Bryce Stewart
Bryce Stewart 5 days ago
$750 for a gaming rig, don't thing so. A grand or two for sure!!!
LittleDooKidle
LittleDooKidle 5 days ago
Poor people? Im still using the FX 8350
Nicholas Ebbing
Nicholas Ebbing 5 days ago
I still remember Luke, man. I do like the new people though.
Unicorn Diarrhea
Unicorn Diarrhea 5 days ago
More videos with Anthony! I like that guy.
Farva
Farva 5 days ago
AMD always
Daniel Pérez
Daniel Pérez 6 days ago
This was easy more informative and interesting than I was expecting! Thanks for this!
ared18t
ared18t 6 days ago
Hey it's the Linux guy. :D
The TNTsheep
The TNTsheep 6 days ago
An important thing to consider for budget gamers is that AM4 will be compatible with new CPUs for the foreseeable future, while the Intel chipsets can be expected to run away before you can say 'WAIITTTTT!..."
bulubuloa
bulubuloa 9 hours ago
good luck with waiting Mobo manufacture to release BIOS for 4 5 year-old motherboard.
Nathan Gamble
Nathan Gamble 5 days ago
"AM4 will be compatible with new CPUs for the foreseeable future" Next generation (Zen 2) yes, but beyond that probably not, outside of the low-end.
rx10
rx10 6 days ago
2:23 I hope his health is a concern of LMG. He clearly needs help
oddeda
oddeda 6 days ago
I was thinking AMD would be much better. To tell you the truth, for lees than 2% performance, I would not OC and stick to Intel with its better stability.
Ri so pia
Ri so pia 5 days ago
Wait for ryzen 2
MrDeathknight1
MrDeathknight1 6 days ago
I've been looking at lap tops for a few games for under 450 and then at 300 pounds which had been intresting refebs the way to go on 300 pound budget but new amd was the way at 450 2500u and on board gpu blasts Intel for game performance from what I can tell on reading on line
James Neave
James Neave 6 days ago
Also, it kinda shows that CPU is largely irrelevant outside of workstation loads.
James Neave
James Neave 6 days ago
But... With the standardisation of 8 cores on the major console platforms, have engines and games been optimized for 8 threads or cores? In stock case, AMD would have a clear advantage.
Dunix 16
Dunix 16 6 days ago
I have a i5 8400 its very good
Chaosbud Gaming
Chaosbud Gaming 6 days ago
I have the 8400 with a 1060 6gb and have been so far very happy with my performance. Figure by Christmas I'll try to do some upgrades
gr82bAnAUTiger
gr82bAnAUTiger 6 days ago
Personally I think it's silly to hold yourself to such a tight budget on something like a PC purchase which should last you 3-5 years especially on the CPU side. An 8700k vs 2700x build is a lot more interesting to me, as they should be fairly similar in prices. The 8700k would win in gaming and the 2700x in productivity while the 8700k system would be about $75-$100 more for the processor (if you can get it at $330 which it goes on sale for all the time) and overclocking board, over 3 years that's like $2.50-$3.00 a month difference. I would also advise a SSD at minimum for boot drive with your primary game on it to reduce texture load times and give a much better experience.
TJ Max
TJ Max 6 days ago
Fun thing. Here in Europe (Serbia) 2060 is around 500$ so this doesn't do us any good lol
Razorize
Razorize 6 days ago
now stream with the same systems and you will easily be able to stream better with amd than intel
Nikola Miladinovic
You are so miserable with these f*****g commercials, just like every other channel
Beep
Beep 6 days ago
I also had the budget of 750. But i have to buy monitor, cpu case and keyboard and mouse in that budget.
Aye Mossum
Aye Mossum 5 days ago
I took my time and bought everything on sale and/or with rebates. My final cost on my PC (no monitor/keyboard/mouse) Ryzen 5 2600, 16GB 3000MHz RAM, RX 570 8GB, B450 mobo, Intel 660p 1TB NVMe SSD, $620. Took me about 4-6 months to build though....
Richardo Otros
Richardo Otros 6 days ago
What laptop is Antoni using?
Gameplay and Talk
This was a fun concept. I was honestly surprised both came out so even, roughly. I'd definitely like to see future videos comparing other price points.
Finchnz
Finchnz 6 days ago
This was really good, I am still running a 4970k and its good to see where each team is going in regards to a setup that is middle of the road.
Bound4Earth
Bound4Earth 6 days ago
Rosewill PSU, HAHA.
Excellion123
Excellion123 6 days ago
Vega56 would have been a much better choice than rtx 2060
F0110W3R '
F0110W3R ' 6 days ago
FX processors anyone! Yeah, it's kinda sad I switched to a Ryzen 5 1500x when it came out. I discount on it from Newegg, so it was cheaper than Intel's current offerings. Once I got that I just slapped it into a cheap b350 and I was good to go!
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